Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa
Three nerds discussing tech, Apple, programming, and loosely related matters.
686: Write Two Letters
Pre-show: The new Ceramic Shield 2 in the iPhone 17 Pro is the real deal UniFi Travel Router Cascades trail Shenandoah National Park 🗣️ ATP STORE IS LIVE! 🗣️ Follow-up: Studio Display XDR price drop‽ 😱 Stephen Robles 1 2 Casey’s snarky toot Tangentially related: John’s Google One price drop John’s upgrade cycle (via Ryan Himmelwright) How much hotter can a Mac get? Mac Studio power consumption Mac Pro power consumption Apple’s implementation of Passkeys (via Ben Frearson) Apple subsidiary fined over $500k for breaching Russian sanctions RetinaDisplays.com CIE 1931 & Apple’s 2026 CMFs They’re more than just a monitor calibration standard (via Eric Portis) The GOAT, Bartosz Ciechanowski Mechanical Watch CIE updates from 2015 On Apple’s CMF Long Island and “mainland” United States v. Maine (via Craig Bowers) The Greatest Podcast Ad Campaign of All Time Overcast link Every other podcast app Casey’s write-up Marco’s letter to John Ternus A Tale of Two Letters Ask ATP: How does Apple Silicon RAM work, anyway? (via Johnny “Decimal” Noble) Post-show: Marco Garmin-watch update Suunto Race S Titanium (Amazon) Garmin Venu 4 Garmin Forerunner 970 Garmin Fenix 8 Pro MicroLED Members-only ATP Overtime: The Claude Code leak & how Claude “actually works” Regex to detect user anger “Undercover mode” (via Aral Balkan) Future plans Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
685: The Ability to Be Hotter
Pre-show: Happy independence day, John! The Great Saunter Pedometer++ The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist 🗣️ New ATP Member Special: ATP Tier List: Home Screen Icons More about the flag Follow-up: Overcast transcripts Missed Apex MacBook Neo Tim Cook on the MacBook Neo launch New Ice Book? (via Adrian Bengtson) iBook “Snow” Teardown by Framework founder Nirav Patel Framework MacBook Neo vs. Chromebooks “NFW”, says Henry “This could be a breath of fresh air”, says Ari “Medium” Core and M5 Pro/Max information from Apple Chance Miller at 9to5 Mac Original article 🇩🇪 PCI Express Ubiquiti What about site-to-site VPN for Marco? UniFi Travel Router “Not so fast, my friend” re: Wi-Fi 7 MLO YouTube announcement Blog post Some shadiness from January 🪦 RIP, Mac Pro 🪦 Thoroughly Considered #123: The Last Detail with John Siracusa CUDA Ask ATP: Are we running any iOS apps in macOS? (via Alex Kent) How would we balance new shiny vs. familiarity? (via Michael Brescher Jr.) Post-show: John and Marco bicker about islands Merriam-Webster’s definition of “mainland” Members-only ATP Overtime: 🥚 Update 10 February: Delayed to 2027 20 February: Smart speaker with a camera? The Information Sponsored by: Masterclass: Learn from the world’s best. Video lessons that inspire. Factor: Healthy Eating, Made Easy Claude: Ready to tackle bigger problems? Get started with Claude today. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
684: It’s Not What Young People Do
Follow-up: Overcast & Transcriptions Marco had never seen inside a datacenter What about podcasts that include their own transcripts (via Matt King) Apple Podcasts transcript options <podcast:transcript> tag MP3 ID3 “SYLT” tag What is Marco using for a job queue? Perhaps Faktory? (via Drew Stephenson) beanstalkd Ansible Monitoring & control interface Imagine a Beowulf cluster of the minis… (via Aaron Dippner) System X RDMA over Thunderbolt was added in macOS 26.2 I Ran a Trillion Parameter AI on a Mac Apple Didn’t Have to Go This Hard Apple Insider Mac fleet management advice Apple Business AirPods Max popularity in New York WWDC 2026 Announced Ask ATP What’s the deal with passkeys, anyway? (via Phillip Miller) XKCD Does having an 8 GB RAM computer keep macOS lean? (via Jon Fabritius) Will we get an iPhone or iPad Pro that will use macOS when connected to a display? (via Keith Heaton) Michael Cook’s contrary opinion Post-show: Casey is continuing to quiet quit his Synology DS1621+ Ubiquiti UNAS Pro Casey’s NUC Channels Proxmox Tailscale on YouTube Derek Seaman’s Tech Blog (the extremely helpful listener 🥰) ESPHome Syncthing & rclone Proxmox Backup Server Transmit Forklift Members-only ATP Overtime: How Apple will add touch support to macOS Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Babble On: Localize your app on iOS, macOS, and Android Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
683: I Didn’t Want to Melt My Rug
Follow-up: You’re welcome, world Formula 1 A brief, renewed pitch to watch this season Cameras Are not a large portion of the coverage (via Matt Rigby) Failures don’t [usually] matter (via The Racing Line) Great camera overview video The other perk of in-car footage (via Eric Fox) On getting Sky Sports replays (via Brendan Webb) Rosetta A deep dive from Colin McKellar Instant Final Cut Pro deprecation warning (via Tom Obarski) iPhone 17e teardown MacBook Neo Gruber on the camera & mic on-screen indicators Apple Platform Security Guide On Apple Exclaves (Medium link) CPU benchmark correction (via Philipp Sommer) SSD benchmarks (via Vito Traino) Andrew Marc David’s review M1 MacBook Air benchmarks General Apple Silicon benchmarks AmorphousDiskMark MacBook SSD benchmarks John’s and Marco’s hands-on impressions Teardowns Tech Re-Nu iFixIt Video Blog post AirPods Max 2 Newsroom John wins the bet (Overcast timestamp link) Apple’s compare page Overcast beta now has transcripts! Mac Mini Vault Green Mini Host FileVault over SSH launchd XPC Post-show Neutral: BMW i3 Revealed The Verge Ars Technica Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s 27 OSes and Liquid Glass Gurman on 15 February Gurman on 15 March Sponsored by: Leesa: A mattress for every body and budget Zapier: Put AI to work across your company—for real. 1Password: Award-winning password manager trusted by millions of users Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
682: Medium Core
Pre-show: Casey brings us back to Anniversary Corner Related episode of ATP Follow-up: An explanation for John’s post that broke containment (via Thomas Dickson) MacBook Neo John’s theory about color & clamshells The M1 MacBook Air was American Walmarts only. (via Pierre-Luc Gagné) Aside also via P-L: does the Neo run Rosetta 2? MacBook Neo inputs 🤝 iPad Air inputs (via Andrew Larson) SSD speeds (via The Verge) The logo iPhone 5 intro video is what John was thinking of (via Peter Puleio) Jason’s review Dave2D’s review Teardown Tyler Stalman on the Neo running “pro” apps Performance Cores vs. Super Cores New in Xcode 24.6β3: CPUFAMILY_ARM_SOTRA (H17S) (via Brendan Shanks) H17S is the missing M5 Pro identifier from iOS 26.3 RC Quinn’s review M5 Pro & Max are on N3P; M5 is N3E Baidu leakers Super cores (“P-Core”) 4.61 GHz 10-wide decoding Performance cores (“M-Core”) 4.38 GHz 7-wide decoding ~70% the performance of a Super Core Dual operating mode from efficiency cores Efficiency cores (“E-Core”) 3.05 GHz 6-wide decoding Andrew Cunningham at Ars L2 cache Super: 16 MB Performance: 8 MB Efficiency: 6MB Minimum clock speed: Super: 1,308 MHz Performance: 1,344 MHz Efficiency: 972 MHz Fusion architecture (via Frederic_Orange) MacBook Pro Storage pricing (via Richard Allen) MacBook keyboard glyphs (via Dan Moren) Environmental progress (via Andrew Leahey) TOSTracker Example individual comparison Third-party displays (via Dan Boyle) Pro Display XDR or Studio Display XDR? (asked by Imthaz) Studio Display XDR UFO Test MKBHD’s review states it has 12 GB RAM 🤭 Studio Display XDR white paper (PDF) (via Kevin Sliech) Superwide viewing angle Timing controller (TCON) Calibration Display optimization modes Formula 1 news Drive to Survive (Apple TV link) Dad jokey-est promo video (Also on YouTube) 20
681: The Price of Your Nightmares
Pre-show: The best (but slowest) website on the internet Million Dollar Homepage 2013 BMW M5 (PDF) 2014 Honda Accord (PDF) M4 iPad Air iPhone 17e New displays (‼️) Studio Display 2 A19 per MacRumors Some excellent throwback snark from Jack Wellborn Studio Display XDR Day-one software update Mac support 120Hz-worthy Macs M5 MacBook Air No change in RAM upgrade pricing? M5 Pro & M5 Max Efficiency cores still exist M5 Pro & M5 Max MacBook Pros If you squint, a 64GB MBP got cheaper MacBook Neo Name leak Prior art Jason’s review & charts No indicator light Jason’s observation about the Apple logo Announcement video Post-show: John had a post break containment Context collapse Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s video podcast experience HLS Dan Moren notes prior art Not based on RSS, laments Manton Reece Stephen Robles’ video Sponsored by: Masterclass: Learn from the world’s best. Video lessons that inspire. Factor: Healthy Eating, Made Easy. Get 50% off your first box, plus free breakfast for 1 year. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
680: A Lot of Holes in That Cheese
Pre-show: Marco’s Watch and snow blows woes TruFuel Follow-up: Casey got the CableCARD email 😭 YoLink alternatives (via Joe) IKEA Matter-over-Thread announcement KLIPPBOK (leak sensor) BILRESA (remote control) MYGGSPRAY (motion sensor) House batteries & V2H/V2L (via Russel Prouse) F-150 Lightning On the value of M𝑥 Pro processors (via Rick Baumhauer) Tahoe window resizing workaround (via Nathan Manceaux-Panot) defaults write -g AppleEdgeResizeExteriorSize 8 defaults delete -g AppleEdgeResizeExteriorSize macOS document model …was actually introduced in Mac OS X 10.7 …and noted in the beginning of the Mac OS X 10.8 review Final Cut Pro X does auto-save (via Ian Robinson) Technical details (via Videoalex) Microsoft Office 365 also auto-saves onto OneDrive in Windows (via Éric) Saving files in Xcode (via Alex Kent) Returning to Save As… (via Eric deRuiter) System Settings Desktop & Dock → disable Close windows when quitting an application Keyboard → Keyboard Shortcuts create an entry under All Applications for Save As… (using an ellipsis by typing ⌥ ;) and assign it to ⌘⇧S Notepad++ (via Emily Campbell) Alternative to Due (via Patrick Dumontel) GoodTask Apple March 4 “experience” MacRumors’ roundup of low-cost MacBook limitations Apple to manufacture some Mac minis in the US Wall Street Journal video Accompanying article Apple News link This predates this administration? Ask ATP: What are our current home & lock screens? (via Sagar Patel) ATP Insider: Roast My Home Screen John: lock & home Casey: lock & home Indigo Croissant Marco: lock & home What’s our current desktop headphone setup? (via ziplyne) Overtime on ATP #675 Casey AirPods Pro 3 Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 32Ω Desktop speakers Sonos Era 100 × 2 Sonos Sub Mini Sonos Combo Adapter John: Sony MDR-7506 Kanto ORA4 ATP #630 Marco: Podcasting Beyerdynamic DT775 Pro 250Ω Beyerdynamic EDT1770D Earpads Schiit Jotunheim 2 (an ol
679: An Adversarial Relationship With Myself
Pre-show: Marco beach… and app… cleanup results Instagram reel that John found Due YoLink Water Leak Starter Kit We’re recording ✨from the future✨. Follow-up: Should Casey look at a used Lucid Air for ~$50k? Marco’s defection move to Chrome (via Sarvagnan) Helium Browser unduck.link Window resizing in Tahoe (via Jeff Johnson) “Resolved Issue” → “Known Issue” Objective Development LaunchBar Little Snitch AirTag 2 & speaker tampering Cloudflare Open Access (via George Black) Explanatory video Fastmail 🤝🏻 Perl Fastmail’s donation John’s referral link Another Apple purchase migration warning (via Nick) Support document YouTube is on visionOS (App Store link) Studio Display 2 to be… 90Hz? 🤨 New devices not on the latest-and-greatest TSMC process? Where are you, M5 Pro MacBook Pro? Juli Clover at MacRumors Ben Lovejoy at 9to5 Mac Ben in December 2024 Vadim Yuryev (of MaxTech) Ask ATP: What kind of battery backup should one use? (via Allen Shull) Casey’s “tailgate battery” Casey’s “bequeathed” generator Tesla Powerwall Why do we think Ternus is a good idea as CEO? (via Kevin B.) What’s the deal with Save As…, Duplicate, etc? (via Carl Walther) The new document model was actually introduced in Mac OS X 10.7 Lion in 2011 More from John’s Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion review in in 2012 Post-show: Casey’s Status Board Members-only ATP Overtime: Apparently everyone is stealing TV ReplayTV Sponsored by: Gusto: Payroll and benefits software built for small businesses. Zapier: Put AI to work across your company—for real. 1Password: Award-winning password manager trusted by millions of users Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
Pre-show: Marco HVAC update Daikin Trane YoLink temperature sensors (or this one with a wider temp. range) YoLink leak sensors LoRa 🗣️ New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Insider: After Apple Follow-up: Units corner Robert Tait’s video WarGames display reincarnated (via everyone) ATP Movie Club: WarGames WarGames AI Whoops, we whiffed on disclosing past/future sponsors 🤦🏻♂️ Steve Troughton-Smith’s experimentations Three apps in one day On usage limits Dread & fatalism We Mourn Our Craft by Nolan Lawson The Tipping Point by Thomas Ricouard (Medium link 🤢) Productivity promise vs. reality Anthropic study Experienced developers are slower? Microsoft study Atlassian study Berkeley: AI adoption ≠ productivity gains Harvard: Slop hinders productivity MIT: 95% of businesses see zero returns (PDF) Breaking the Spell of Vibe Coding by Rachel Thomas AI-Generated Code Quality by Mark Levison Comprehension Debt by Aman Shekhar Your Brain on ChatGPT by Nataliya Kosmyna et al Some related links from our AI conversation: n8n Stratechery interview with Benedict Evans Computer (occupation) Memento mori Steam Machine & Steam Frame delayed due to component shortages/price increases Ferrari Luce Andrew J. Hawkins at The Verge Walkthrough video with Jordan Golon at PRNDL Associated post Dieter Rams Patek Philippe Nautilus Braun Gordon Murray Automotive Type 50 Shift knob & switchgear (timestamp link to 18:04) Other videos Leica Post-show: Casey is car shopping Porsche Taycan Audi e-tron GT BMW i4 Rivian R3 How the second-gen Porsche Taycan is better than the first-gen Members-only ATP Overtime: China’s ban on electric door handles Tesla hit with another wrongful death suit by Andrew J. Hawkins Flush door handles & efficiency by Jonathan M. Gitlin Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Quince: Elevated essentials and staples that last. DeleteMe: Making it quic
677: I Accept the Battery Cost
Pre-show: Icepocalypse update Follow-up: Casey’s unit conversions are helpful… ish Other authentication options for John’s Cloudflare apps Cloudflare Access Zero trust architecture OpenID connect tsidp Pocket ID Per-pixel lighting and human perception (via David Schaub) The state of MicroLED Robert Tait of The Hook Up Claude Code & AI ethics Alec’s video Irish wind farm Top Dogs in Apple Vision Pro Marco’s experiment Cortex DuckDuckGo Kagi Apple adds agentic coding to Xcode 26.3 John’s Tahoe icon battle continues Rubber duck debugging Kyle Hughes Drop shipping Post-show: Tesla kills off the Model S and Model X Most recent earnings Earnings call transcript The Robotaxi is dangerous according to… Tesla We really need to get to self-driving Waymo’s safety record Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s rumored AI pin Apple buys Q.ai Ryan Christoffel Sponsored by: Gusto: Payroll and benefits software built for small businesses. Masterclass: Learn from the world’s best. Video lessons that inspire. Factor: Healthy Eating, Made Easy. Get 50% off your first box, plus free breakfast for 1 year. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction
Pre-show: Snowpocalypse update Follow-up: atp.fm passkey update Google Private AI Compute Apple 🤝🏻 Google Cloud Removing copy/paste crud (via rauli) Screen on RAM ASUS improves color accuracy for Mac users (via Oliver Thomas) Modular headphones AIAIAI (via Graham Dobie) Tyler H’s review of the Fender Mix and Fairphone Fairbuds Window management in macOS (via Ben) FlashSpace AltTab New AirTags The chime has changed from F → G Apple hosting LA event Invite image Jason’s Creator Studio review TCL has bought Sony’s TV business TCL Super Quantum Dot TCL X11L John Ternus takes over design at Apple Sebastiaan de With → Apple Who makes design decisions at Apple, anyway? Post-show: We stand with Minnesotans. Apple employee reaction to Tim Cook Tim’s internal memo Tim’s letter after George Floyd Gruber on Tim’s letter Gruber on language CRDT John’s new bff XKCD #974: Pass the salt Members-only ATP Overtime: TikTok in the US is under new ownership… for real this time Congress is unsure if it complies with law Are content moderation changes afoot? More data slurping definitely is Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load
Pre-show: Snowpocalypse is coming for Casey 🗣️ New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Tier List: Automotive Logos 🗣️ Follow-up: We’ll talk TCL/Sony next week! Gruber’s post Top Dogs is coming “Cloud technology”? Google’s blog post Gurman’s post Clipboard hijacking It’s an Apple thing No, really Indonesia is not small MainStage is not new (via Mike Taffet et al) Interview Apple’s Pro Apps Bundle still exists for education users (via Pekka Salonen) Pro apps free trials Prior art (via Karoline) The trials are full versions (via Ian Robinson) Monitors at CES DisplayPort alternate mode for USB-C What about color accuracy? Extended Display Identification Data ProMotion in Safari iOS: Settings → Apps → Safari → Advanced → Feature Flags Test Vision Pro does have Keynote Icons in Tahoe menus Nikita Prokopov Jim Nielsen Colin M. Ford (and an explanation) Apple’s guidelines You don’t have bad aim; it’s Tahoe How to prevent Tahoe update nags Many Tricks Device management profiles Actually it’s a bug 🤭 Ask ATP: Was Alan Dye a better or worse steward of software design than Jony Ive? (via Austin) Will Alan Dye’s departure affect a touchscreen MacBook Pro? (via Tom Armstrong) What is our favorite macOS style? (via Nate) macOS Screenshot Library Post-show: John’s migration continues John’s Fastmail referral link Cron Namecheap Cloudflare Claude Code MiniDV StatusBoard Grafana Prometheus CandyBar Members-only ATP Overtime: Fender’s first wireless headphones The Verge coverage Demo video Sony WH-1000XM6 Auracast Wikipedia Sony MDR-7506 Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Zapier: Put AI to work across your company—for real. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and ou
674: A Reliable, Boring Partner
Pre-show: Casey’s dreams were squashed Ubiquiti Travel Router Verizon Jetpack Marco’s hotspot (newer models exist; check for refurbs, they’re way cheaper than new) Solis Edge Follow-up: The Grim Reaper FiOS CableCARD email came for John TiVo Roamio Pro Casey on Downstream Temporal dithering (via Kyle Foreman) Dagnabbit, the screen count is just too damn high MSI MEG Vision X (Screen grab) MSI Lightning RTX 5090 (Screen grab) Wi-Fi channel selection & size Wi-Fi 7 8 A tour of Apple- (or John-) relevant monitors from CES As a reminder… Apple Studio Display Pro Display HDR MSI MPG 271KRAW16 DisplayHDR 1400 certification MSI MAG 271KPD7 Monitors Unboxed ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG27UCWM (Photo) HDTVTest Subpixel arrangements Apple Creator Studio Icons over time Photomator lives on… for now (via Chris Welch) MacRumors Apple’s defense of the icons Jason on iWork freemium Apple 🤝🏻 Google More from The Information Chase to become the new issuer of Apple Card FAQ Back story on the Wall Street Journal (Apple News) Post-show: NBA Immersive Stratechery Dithering Members-only ATP Overtime: The continuing disaster at Twitter Elizabeth Lopatto: Tim Cook and Sundar Pichai are cowards Dan Moren: Apple cowardly still has not pulled X and Grok from the App Store Bloomburg: Musk’s Grok AI blocked in Indonesia, Malaysia over sexual images Robert Hart & Jess Weatherbed: X hasn’t really stopped Grok AI from undressing women in the UK Sponsored by: Guru: Your AI Source of Truth. Gusto: Payroll and benefits software built for small businesses. 1Password: More than a password manager. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
673: Six Impossible Things
Pre-show: Casey has a question for Marco LivePhish Goose on Bandcamp Nugs Thank you, ATP Patrons! Follow-up: Cord-cutting Casey on Downstream suppose.tv Multi-select in iOS Contacts.app (via many, including Simon Ljungberg) The Studio Display is $1600 (via Greg Seay) Quinn’s video on making a 5K display Display flickering (via Stephen Perelson) This started in late 2020 with Big Sur Temporal dithering (AKA Frame rate control) Stillcolor to disable temporal dithering on macOS BetterDisplay for turning on and off GPU dithering Docs PlayStation Portal …works with PlayStation Plus …but really needs solid Wi-Fi …and doesn’t support Wi-Fi 6 …and requires wired or first-party Bluetooth headphones Double-tap title bar to Fill (via Chirag Desai) Knowedge base System Settings → Desktop & Dock → Window title bar double-click action → Fill Wi-Fi 7 Ubiquiti’s Wi-Fi 7 implementation is not great (via Reid) WPA3 WPA3 is not well supported (via USB Type-Steve) Alternatively, try band steering (via Patch) Wi-Fi Pro Abraham Vegh weighs in …as does pro Saul Sutherland John’s Eero Max 7 setup Thread vs. Matter Thread Matter Derek Seaman’s series To run Matter in HA, you need a separate container Apple Fitness+ and Quitter’s Day Bodi ASML & TSMC Extreme ultraviolet lithography Veritasium: The Ridiculous Engineering of the World’s Most Important Machine Asianometry: ASML: TSMC’s Critical Supplier, Explained TSMC Analysis playlist The Spectacular Failure of the Star Wars Hotel Tech stuff we’re looking forward to in 2026 Gartner hype cycle The Trow of Disillusionment Post-show: Casey bought something silly Quinn’s video GL i.Net /r/ubiquiti Teleport Extremely dodgy firmware upgrade approach Portainer Members-only ATP Overtime: Strange form factor rumors for forthcoming iPhones The Information MacRumors Mockup image & video Jason’s & Stepen’s posts iPhone fold display qu
672: Wi Hyphen Fi
Pre-show: Comply TrueGrip MAX for AirPods Pro 3 Pepperidge Farm Remembers Follow-up: Contacts Contact lists are a thing (via Dayton Lowell) Some non-obvious complications (via Paul) Face ID & Touch ID Older folks really do struggle with Touch ID (via Harrison Krebs & Kurt Schwind) Strictness (via Rob Sayre) John’s Liquid Glass bug in macOS 26.2 (via Gui Rambo) Gui’s PR Some more about Podcasts.app and background execution (also from Gui) FB17228659 Developer Technical Support RAM shortage Verge article Micron’s forthcoming fabs Hynix’s approach …and forthcoming fabs Samsung’s approach Thru-Silicon The Vergecast RAM Holiday Spec-tacular Data portability Git Github will still sink its talons into you (via Simon Jodet) Xcode 🤝 Git (via Tom Hartnett) Android ↔ iOS Display flicker in Tahoe What does this even mean? (via Daniel) One theory (via Sean Santry) Some corroboration (via Philip Hofstetter) Wi-Fi 7 is a bust -protonsandneutrons- Playstation Portal Ask ATP: What’s the difference between minimizing and hiding windows on macOS? (via Michael Krewson) Post-show: What the heck is the deal with Thread/Matter Home Assistant Nanoleaf Smart String Lights Lutron Caséta (former sponsor) YoLink Members-only ATP Overtime: iMac Pro… phoenix? Previous code name discussion Jason on Apple’s display strategy Sponsored by: Quince: Elevated essentials and staples that last Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
671: Even Apple Can’t Beat the Sun
Pre-show: Christmas-slideshow time Follow-up: Paris Buttfield-Addison’s locked Apple ID 🇦🇺 ACCC: Consumer Rights & Guarnatees 🇺🇸: Remember when we had a CFPB? Chat math Metadata thread splitting & merging Colin spells it out for us TV Everywhere XMLTV m3u8 IPTV Github Repo 🚨 Proceed with caution 🚨 StreamEast 506 Sports Custom pronunciations in iOS Accessibility → VoiceOver → Speech → Pronunciations See Apple support Accessibility → Read & Speak → Pronunciations See Apple support Apple video guide Tahoe Studio Display flickering Malicious content delivery in Apple Podcasts Previously 1 Previously 2 iPhone roadmap Article on The Information iPhone XX rumor roundup Under-screen FaceID? Haptic buttons? Apple exploring touch-sensitive iPhone cases Patent Ask ATP: How do we manage our contacts? (via Tyler Kindy) How do we use version control? (via Dmitry Myronenko) 🗣️ Remember, ATP gift memberships are a thing! Post-show: John’s bug FB21375029 Sample project Members-only ATP Overtime: RAM shortage, or the flip-side of the Apple Intelligence RAM dividend Sam Altman’s dirty DRAM deal RAM is ruining everything It-hurts-because-it’s-true wisecrack by ziplyne The RAM shortage is here to stay Chipwrecked Sponsored by: Gusto: Payroll and benefits software built for small businesses Zapier: Put AI to work across your company—for real DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
670: Institutionally Inescapable
Pre-show: Marco joins team snow tires i3: 155/70R19 XC90: 275/40R21 Molex F-150 Lightning’s demise 🗣️ Remember, ATP gift memberships are a thing! 🗣️ New ATP Members Special: ATP Movie Club: WarGames WarGames Follow-up: Some impromptu spoiler-free follow-up about the member’s special John’s Cloudflare update Hypercritical Marco’s former TV (via Wayne Morgan) Apple executive departures Jeff Williams has been nominated to join Disney’s board Press release The Verge Would Johnny Srouji consider Rivian? What about NVIDIA? Apple 2030 & carbon credits (via Zach) Split iMessage groups (via sirshannon) AI-generated voice-matched dubbing Fran Besora tried the Spanish version Stefanus Secundus tried the German version Ben Mattison had an odd YouTube experience Siri and pronunciations (via Paul Zadunajsky) Intel stealing learning from chips it fabs Thread by Joe Lion VHDL Jason Biatek points out this is all basically cryptography Galois blog post Migrate Purchases (via James Wilby) Paris Buttfield-Addison got locked out of his Apple ID… because of a gift card Casey’s tangentially-related rant Netflix to acquire Warner Brothers Dominic Preston at The Verge From the past: Blockbuster’s reaction to Netflix Marc Randolph’s comment Paramount launches hostile $108B bid Elizabeth Lopatto at The Verge: Larry Ellison’s big dumb gift to his large adult son Gruber’s take As per Brian Stelter, Netflix is prepared More Paramount context from Charles Pulliam-Moore at The Verge Emma Roth at The Verge: CBS News was just taken over by a Substack Elizabeth Lopatto at The Verge: Memo to Bari Weiss Re: CBS News: You’re doomed Post-show: Casey asks for programming help StoreKit2 UserDefaults NotificationCenter Singleton Publisher @Environment Dependency injection @EnvironmentObject Members-only ATP Overtime: The State of TV Verizon FiOS stabs John & Casey CableCARD PCMCIA TiVo Chann
669: Ternus, Take the Wheel
Pre-show: Casey has a giggle about central Virginia snow Follow-up: Apple Fitness+ is doing better than the Mac Pro Workout Buddy Previously with Jay Blahnik More adventures with Cloudflare jramskov’s observation TLS Certificate lifetimes Alternatively, GitHub Pages Some thoughts from an anonymous Cloudflare employee Workers Pages R2 KV Durable Objects Oops… we broke it Landon’s observation 5 December Outage React.js vulnerability Say my name, Siri! Siri response preferences (via Jonathan Gulbrandsen) Screenshot AirPods and Contacts (via Oren Idan) We’re… uh… sorry. Our bad. Sean Santry Reid Sorenson iOS 26 rollout 📈 Underscore on 20 November Underscore on 8 December Intel 🤝 Apple Commentary Tambourine Man David Beck Goffredo Marocchi Previously on ATP Srouji’s comments (timestamp link to 34m26s) Maybe Intel will just do packaging? Maybe iPhone chips too? Gruber is… not a fan… of Alan Dye Dye Was in Tim Cook’s Blind Spot Apple’s revolving door keeps spinning An anonymous observation Gurman, 6 December Gurman, 8 December Gurman’s departing executive tracker image Post-show: Messages conversation merging A feature request Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple Watch & Mac mini are no longer advertised as “carbon neutral” Apple 2030 Apple commits to 100% carbon neutrality for supply chain & products by 2030 (21 July 2020) Carbon removal & offsets Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy Eating, Made Easy. Get 50% off your first box, plus free breakfast for 1 year. Leesa: A mattress for every body and budget. Save with code ATP. Aura Frames: Frames for every memory, gifts for every occasion Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
668: So Happy for All Parties Involved
Pre-show: Marco has a new toy Follow-up: Vision Pro Light Seal sizes decoded Vision Pro Size Help tool JPEG XL lives… in PDF Chromium ticket jxl-rs: JPEG XL in Rust Chapter links in Apple Podcasts Stephen Robles on The Talk Show Apple documentation ATP on Threads Malicious content delivery on Podcasts.app? 404 Media article Everybody is leaving Apple John Giannandrea to retire from Apple Amar Subramanya’s first-week experience at Microsoft Alan Dye poached by Meta Jason’s take Cloudflare’s 18 November Outage Cloudflare Lets Encrypt Hypercritical Callsheet Ask ATP: Why can’t Siri pronounce names correctly? (via Tony West) serra queue sah Siri, what’s my full name Post-show: What now, bagel snobs? BagelFest Baltik’s Bagel: People’s Choice award Baltik’s Bagel Coverage from the NY metro area Bullstrap Minimalist Case Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple 🤝 Intel? Intel 18A vs. TSMC N2 MTr/mm² Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Aura Frames: Frames for every memory, gifts for every occasion. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
667: Wisdom and Treachery
Pre-show: Marco bought a new toy ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It II Bryan’s toot pen.tips Paperlike 3 Paperlike Pencil Tips Follow-up: macOS Tahoe 26.2 β3 seems to fix Electron slowdown (per shamelectron) Gurman says “not so fast, my friend” Gaming in ARM Anti-cheat complications (via Tyler) Windows 11 on ARM (via David Gaw) OpenAI Egg update Interview video Fred T Apple N1 > Broadcom An iPhone camera cluster theory The UK is still trying to make fetch happen get themselves a back door Financial Times Apple Fitness+ is “Under Review” Fast charging & battery health Juli Clover summary @ MacRumors Ask ATP: Now that Marco owns a restaurant, does he tip differently? (via Max Velasco Knott) What do we think about third-party packages? (via Eric Jacobsen) swift-collections swift-async-algorithms CPAN Flow Is organizing /Applications a poor choice? (via Nathan) Are our kids better than we are at video games yet? (via Omri Arbiv) Ultimate Chicken Horse SongPop Party UltraKill Universal Paperclips Cookie Clicker Post-show: The saga of Overcast episode images Core Intuition Linode Object Storage CloudFlare R2 Members-only ATP Overtime: Should we ever be forced to put away our phones? (via Philip McDermott) Sponsored by: Zapier: Put AI to work across your company—for real PAKA: Performance apparel from alpaca fiber Aura Frames: Frames for every memory, gifts for every occasion Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
666: We Have Nothing That Hot
🗣️ New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It II ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It — 16 October 2023 Follow-up: The origin of “diamond dogs” (via Jared Counts) Wikipedia Matte, glossy, glass, and nanotexture (via Johnny “Decimal” Noble) Paperlike Rock Paper Pencil Steam Machine EuroGamer article about APU/GPU (via DavidSchaub) PlayStation 5 OS is FreeBSD-based (via Jesús Santaigo Narváez) Wikipedia PS Dev Wiki Steam Frame Lenses (via Michael) Spec chart (via James O’Loughlin) Top strap image Steam → Apple Vision Pro using ALVR (via Iain Wallace) Guide on Reddit SteamOS Is not universally supported (via DavidSchaub) Alternatives (via solmnmagus) Bazzite CachyOS Anti-cheat considerations (via Julian Torres) Screw it, I’m installing Linux Steam strategy Is Steam-on-ARM popular? Hardware survey (via Lars Boris) Additional thoughts from Ava Steam has only one person to answer to (via charlesesmith) Single thread performance ranking (via Steven Op de beeck) “High-Res Antiglare” (via Adam Wunn) John mourns the recent news GPU issues (via Colin Cornaby) GeekBench Metal scores Mac Pro (2019) + AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT Mac Studio (2025) + M3 Ultra The Case for a True Mac Pro Successor Tim Cook to step down as early as next year Tim Cook & Kara Swisher in 2021 (starts at 35:51) As discussed in ATP #425: Hey Billionaire Financial Times, 14 November 2025 Gruber’s take Joe Rossignol @ Mac Rumors Apple Corporate Governance Guidelines Post-show: Declan discovers “HyperCard” Rage-baiting Members-only ATP Overtime: The App Store on the web Dan Moren @ Six Colors MJ Tsai Apple shipped its source maps Svelte See also: Apple Maps on the web Announcement See also: Apple Podcasts on the web Juli Clover @ MacRumors Sponsored by: DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Squarespac
665: My Basement Is Beautiful
Follow-up: John has some new Vision Pro treats Flight Ready In the defense of the CD-R (via Jonathan Goforth) ATP Tier List: Storage Media Auto-generated chapters in Apple podcasts We’re dummies: ATP has a [chapter-free] bootleg Some more technical details (via Stephen Robles) Subscriber audio chapters are a mess New MacBook Pro design is for M6 Pro & Max only? Mark Gurman’s coverage MD101 Tahoe & Electron app fixes Discord is fixed (via Dayton Lowell) Microsoft Teams Classic is likely to never get fixed (via Adam Wunn) macOS Emoji Picker ⌃ ⌘ Space Rocket Pogo-stick robot Boston Dynamics A butt-dialing theory from Trey Carpenter iPhone Pocket Paul’s analogy Gruber’s post iPod Socks On eBay New Steam Hardware Initial coverage Image of the new devices Announcement video Digital Foundry’s coverage Dave2D’s coverage Steam Controller TMR not Hall Effect Understanding the difference Steam Machine Images on The Verge Steam Frame More photos Post-show: Marco goes to Home Depot Members-only ATP Overtime: Affinity graphics apps go free, and some people are upset Press release Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy Eating, Made Easy. Get 50% off your first box, plus free breakfast for 1 year. Grammarly: A digital writing assistant that ensures your writing and reputation shine. NordLayer: Get 28% off on yearly seats through December 10th with the code ACCIDENTALTECH-28. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
664: Humanity Gets in the Way
Pre-show: Casey dropped his 17 Pro 🗣️ The ATP Holiday Store is back! Order before 9 November! 🗣️ T568A & T568B Idea courtesy Adam Brandon Don’t Stop Believin’… An aside about podcast chapters and Apple’s recent news Follow-up: The current MacBook Pro design is from the M1 (via Ben Mattison) More dashed Mac Pro dreams Apple’s internal chip codename nomenclature Variants P = A_ G = A_X / A_Z / M_ S = M_ Pro C = M_ Max D = M_ Ultra X = M_ Pro/Max/Ultra Examples A11 = H10P A12X = H11G A14 = H13P M1 = H13G M2 Pro = H14S GPUs use G instead of H More island/chip names from 26.1 RC: Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/System/Library/Frameworks/Kernel.framework/Versions/A/Headers/arm/cpuid.h Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/include/mach/machine.h Apple codenames John’s tale of Xcode 26.1 woe John’s un-fixed Electron apps More clipboard history options in macOS 26.1 M5 MacBook Pro speed tests MaxTech Casey has tried the new Developer Strap Accessibility → Audio & Visual → Balance An aside about nanotexture displays Marco’s current iPad paper-texture overlay Casey upgraded to Tahoe Funky sidebar icon /r/overcast Under the Radar #330: Engaging with Reddit Meltdown in the ProCreate subreddit over a painting of Master Chief Post-show: Marco plays with 3D printing Tinkercad Bambu Eric Welander’s video about Gridfinity Toybox Members-only ATP Overtime: Joanna Stern tries Neo, the household “robot” WSJ Article (or On Apple News+) QWOP Sponsored by: DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Zapier: Put AI to work across your company — for real. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
663: Defending the Honor of The Cheesecake Factory
Pre-show: Marco’s airplane neighbors Flighty 🗣️ The ATP Holiday Store is back! Order before 9 November! 🗣️ T568A & T568B Idea courtesy Adam Brandon Follow-up: Vision Pro Mac Virtual Display On Intel it’s only up to 3K 🤭 (via Thomas Cheng) Apple Support Tapping-and-holding × allows for hiding other windows (via Nick Anthony) Vision Pro vs. ski goggles Apple 🤝 Vapor Chambers Would it come to the MacBook Air (via Andy Lang) Coming to the iPad Pro? Apple’s MLS deal …is worldwide; not US-only Apple advertises in Korea (via Jake Lee) John’s Shortcuts bug Calum’s example Fleedar’s example lukens77 on Reddit (via eurozerozero) Is it all Shortcuts-related files? Possible fix from gleeful Overwrite If File Exists Fixing the “iconic plateau” (via Gordon Mcdowell) The Cheesecake Factory does, apparently, make everything fresh ATP Inside: The Restaurant, Season One Cube Rule Mac Rumors M6/OLED MacBook Pro? Previously from Mark Gurman Brendan Shanks’ discovery 𝓍OS 26 β4 includes Liquid Glass toggle iOS/iPadOS: Settings → Display and Brightness macOS: System Settings → Appearance Example image Lock Screen swipe for camera can now be disabled, too Settings → Camera → Lock Screen Swipe to Open Camera Is Tahoe safe yet? The Electron bug Fixes are rolling out Detector app by Tomas Kafka, via Craig Hockenberry Status of popular apps Post-show: More of John’s impressions of the Vision Pro Members-only ATP Overtime: How does one actually make an app? (via not that coach mike) Sponsored by: SKIMS: Comfortable underwear, socks, t-shirts, leggings & more. Claude: Get 50% off your first three months of Claude Pro. PAKA: Performance apparel from alpaca fiber. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
662: Just Break the Law
Pre-show: More people have been infected by Goose 🗣️ New ATP Members’ Special: ATP Insider: The Restaurant, Season One 🗣️ An aside about outerwear 🗣️ The ATP Holiday Store is back! Order before 9 November! 🗣️ T568A & T568B Idea courtesy Adam Brandon Follow-up: Recognition corner Casey begs for help Callsheet List bug (FB17661404) is fixed in 26.1 🎉 However, Menu(::primaryAction:) is broken (FB20755661) Some M5 Vision Pro clarifications The M5 does have Memory Integrity Enforcement The M5 MacBook pro without a charger is actually cheaper in most regions EU is €100 cheaper without / €35 with (via Nick Heer) UK is the same though The non-determinism of LLMs (via Heiko Hotz) New chat Mira Murati’s company piece discussing non-determinism The M5 Vision Pro Dual Knit Band HDCP Television Theater New Developer Strap (behind Apple Developer paywall) MacRumors coverage Post-show: John’s weird Finder animation bug AVIF Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple 🤝🏻 F1 in 🇺🇸 Previous offerings Apple’s bespoke F1 camera Wired’s coverage Apple’s F1-themed WWDC intro Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Leesa: A mattress for every body and budget; use code ATP for 20% off mattresses plus an extra $50 off. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
661: Intimate and Regimented
Follow-up: Languages in Scotland ATP merch has more benefits (via Christian Heiler) Slide Over fade animation (via Daniel Luz) Marco’s iPhone case survey: Ryan London bare bottom (via Oliver Thomas) /u/LaughingMan11 is Benson Leung (via Deta & Daniel Luz) ZFS and the Drobo dream (via Joe) AnyRAID for ZFS Explained for Dummies Hexos announcement An aside for an argument Apple M5 M5 Pro, M5 Max, TSMC’s SoIC Ming-Chi Kuo Chip on Wafter on Surface Integrated Fan-Out Package-on-Package M5 MacBook Pro MacRumors on the [lack of] power adapter Numerama M5 iPad Pro M5 Vision Pro The Verge compares refresh rates Sorry, no trade-ins Logitech Muse spatial stylus Apple TV+ is now Apple TV F1: The Movie announcement post Eddie Cue on The Town podcast New icon Post-show: iPhone setup, take two Skip all the Siri/FaceID/etc things until setup is complete Don’t try to memorize the flashing 6-digit code; choose another way Members-only ATP Overtime: Alexa Plus in the real world Jennifer Patterson Tuohy “Temperature” on LLMs Nilay’s take Sponsored by: Sentry: A real-time error monitoring and tracing platform. Grammarly: A digital writing assistant that ensures your writing and reputation shine. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
